I consider myself a person who is aware of their emotions, but I did not realize how much something was bothering me, until of a dream I had last night. In the dream, I was the Vice President of the United States. After going about my official duties for part of the day and meeting with the American people, I became disheartened. I saw how angry and hateful people were, people who claimed to be otherwise, and I decided to resign my position. The crux of the issue was race. The dream seemed set in the future, but we were dealing with the civil rights issues of the twentieth century. My decision to resign was done without consulting anyone. I told a reporter to get a crew together, and as I paced back and forth thinking over my presentation, I woke up.
As I lay in bed, it was immediate what was bothering me: North Carolina’s decision to define marriage as between a man and a woman.
As a citizen of the Commonweal of G*d, I am grief stricken at the systematic hate of the Body of Christ. As an American citizen, I am appalled at the violation of civil rights and the institutionalized bigotry that we are perpetrating here in the U.S.
In the United States we all but decimated tens of millions of people in the name of “our” rights to live how “we” thought proper. We then enslaved millions of another race to
support the economics of that society. We have mentally and physically abused our women, because “our” society was for the pleasure of the white male. Later, we “allowed” our slaves to be separate, but equal – shutting them away in dilapidated housing with substandard education, as we kept them bound in the invisible chains of poverty and fear. We have done all of this with biblical support.
Today, we still have a portion of our society that is trying to define equal rights for everyone, but then they make people less than human so “everyone” comes to mean “some people.” Rights are hard to get in the land of the free. At first, a person had to be a white, land-owning male. Women and other races were out. Slaves were 3/5 of a person. Then, blacks became people by law, but not by culture. It would be even longer before women could vote. Today, if you are queer in America, you do not have the same rights under the constitution as everyone else. If you are queer and in love, you do not have the right to get married like that man and woman next door who is getting a divorce. This same segment is touting how this is the voice of the people, because it was voted on. Yes, and so was segregation.
Imagine a world where Christians are defined by their love of G*d and neighbor, rather than living up to “biblical principles” that make people feel not good enough to kiss the shoe that is walking out of a church on Sunday afternoon. Imagine a world where Christians did not rally in anger and frustration against the creation of G*d, but out of compassion and earnestness for humanity. Imagine a world where Christians united to feed the widow and orphan, who put on the ballot equal pay for women, who marched on the steps of Washington to end wars, who wanted all people to have affordable access to dental and medical care, and who worked to make the word “Ghetto” an out-of-date term that our grandchildren would have to read about in history books. Imagine.
My heart hurts. My soul is crushed. I am repelled by the G*d that so many Christians worship. I have no desire to know their Jesus.
There is a G*d who is love. There is a Jesus who taught us the way. We are to love G*d and our neighbors as ourselves. We are not to judge those same neighbors. We are to embrace the outcasts of the religious and social elite. We are to let go of the possessions that are holding onto us and follow. We are to love. Imagine.



Ok, tell me why people don’t just say that they don’t want to worship God? Everyone has that free choice. I get really tired of hearing how others don’t like God or hate God, and justify it by pointing to someone else’s warped perception of God. There is no ‘your’ God or ‘my’ God. God is God. God is not possessed by anyone. If we so choose, and it IS our choice, we are possessed by God. It’s sad that Christianity, as well as other faiths, have caused such deep hurt that people will choose to believe only the worst about a God who wants (for every one of us) only the very best. At the same time, if God is important enough for you to keeping talking about (even if negatively), then take the time to talk to a person of genuine faith and find out the truth. Then go repeat it. Just a thought but, if you find discrimination so offensive, then why not stop discriminating against God and use that energy to stand against those who USE God to hurt others–just as you say you stand against those who use prejudice and ignorance to hurt others?
My goodness Matt. I love you man. Great response to the confused lady. Robert, thank you for being a shining example of what I love in Christians. The ability to use logic & reason while leaving this dogmatic hatred of gays to those with hard hearts.
In a secular society, many Christians will cry foul about how their rights are infringed upon because our culture is more accepting of people some view as sinful. But the constitution protects both the believer & non believer. Feel free to believe that homosexuality is a sin, but understand that not everyone agrees with you.
Also understand that non believers are a little suspect of any group of people who would fight to keep people from basic civil rights. The church does not have a history of kindness to things it doesn’t understand. From locking up Galileo for claiming the planets revolved around the sun to the burning of “Witches” to the crusades & Inquisition. Many of us our skeptical when you want to put your beliefs that certain lifestyles that are between consenting adults are sinful, into amendments to our state & federal constitutions.
Imagine a world where pedophiles were allowed to marry children…
I’m not saying, in any way, that people with homoSEXUAL preferences are preying on children, what I’m saying is, that when you open the door the expound the covenant of marriage beyond a man and a woman, you are opening, very wide, the floodgates. It’s a matter of SEXual preference. The covenant between a man, woman, and God is a sacred one. Just because people in the church are broken, just because marriages sometimes end in divorce, doesn’t mean marriage needs to be redefined.
We can love, we can refrain from judgement, but, and I’ll use the simple argument of nature and phisiology, leaving God out of it, it is still unnatural. Just as if I wanted to have sex with children or animals would be unnatural.
Additionally, God doesn’t “make us” gay or liars or theives. We are born with a sin nature. We battle continually with our flesh. We constantly say “no” to many things that are not good for us. If I had a tendency towards female attraction, can’t I say no? Where is it written that I have to have a partner? Maybe I have to live life with Jesus as my husband and live a life of celibacy. I can choose NOT to be sexually active and I could still have a love of women. The crux of this argument is a right to sex, not a right to love.
Additionally, homosexuality occurs on the genetic level in nearly all species of animal. God made that. To deny gays rights on religious grounds is to either say that God has a tendency to make a large percentage of human beings abominations or to say that he’s a sadist. If you’re right, then your god isn’t worth following.
And you’re wrong, the right to sex is not being challenged here. It can’t be — not without throwing the Constitution out the window. The right that’s being challenged is the right to visit your life partner in the hospital when they’re terminally ill and only “family members” are allowed. The right that’s being challenged is the right for a lifelong companion to receive insurance and inheritance money after the death of their lifelong companion without it being contested by greedy family members. There are hundreds of privileges that married couples have and benefit from every day that are not afforded to these people simply because they cannot claim “marriage.”
Nothing about any of these things affects you or your spouse on a religious level. You lose nothing if they get equal rights. If you help take those rights, you lose your charity and your humanity.
Thank you, matwellwer!
That is not an accurate comparison at all. Pedophilia is a predatory crime with an unwilling victim. Gay couples are in loving relationships between consenting adults. And the ‘floodgates’ are completely imaginary. We set restrictions on reasonable behavior all the time. Like it or not, the man-woman paradigm is a religious construct and you and the people in your church are free to practice that any way you like. The government has to govern all people and should not discriminate against any based on something they do in their home.
By the way, do you wear pants? Because the texts in Leviticus that you pull your self-righteous attitude about gays from also say that you should be stoned to death for that. People pick and choose what to take literally in the Bible all the time.
I concur. If someone believes God would make people gay and then force them to act against their nature or go to hell, then they believe in a sadistic, stupid God, and I won’t abide.
Besides that, let’s just talk practicality. As long as there is money and manpower available and yet we have underfunded education and people without food or shelter, then we are a savage society. Let’s work on becoming civilized before we even think about stripping some segments of society of their rights. Besides, don’t kid yourselves, if the Republicans continue to get away with this garbage, we’re going to be living in a society that would make Orwell vomit within 20 years.
Side note: I think the most beautifully articulated statement about homosexuality and Christianity I have ever heard was by C. Joseph Sprague in his book Affirmations of a Dissenter. I recommend every Christian read it. I knew Sprague when I was a young teen, and to this day if you asked me to name the five best examples of Christians I have ever known, his name would be first out of my mouth.
Robert,
Love,
Lisa